tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159158.post1992315700884594674..comments2024-02-25T20:07:56.114-06:00Comments on Mr. Verb: Outrageous verbing? to saddlebackMr. Verbhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04048931596146402872noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159158.post-30832414760735440872011-03-13T13:40:48.870-05:002011-03-13T13:40:48.870-05:00Rick Warren was one of the "Missionaries of H...Rick Warren was one of the "Missionaries of Hate" responsible for the present atmosphere in Uganda that resulted in the "kill the gays" bill and the death of David Kato.<br /><br />That vicious prat gets NO sympathy from me. He's an entirely appropriate target.Reed Boyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07446033460687614476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159158.post-77020916416715490922009-02-03T21:00:00.000-06:002009-02-03T21:00:00.000-06:00I don't know a great deal about Warren. What litt...I don't know a great deal about Warren. What little I have seen of him strikes me as coming from a theological lightweight, which is hardly surprising among the megachurch set. On the other hand, he also did some backtracking on the gay issue.<BR/><BR/>My sense is that he doesn't particularly care about the gay issue. So why did he say those deeply offensive (and silly) things about gays? Because those things are commonplaces in his subculture, and he was mindlessly parroting them.<BR/><BR/>We all do this sort of thing. There are only so many issues that one can genuinely care and educate oneself about. So we tend to adopt the prevailing attitudes of our subculture about the issues we don't consider central.<BR/><BR/>There is a cultural shift going on about gays, even with evagelicalism. The young'uns grew up with Will and Grace and the like, and to an increasing degree don't share their elders' prejudices on the subject. I expect that before too long, the old guys will be like the elderly uncle who talks about the Coloreds: a source of embarrassment.<BR/><BR/>The upshot with regards to Warren is that, assuming I am reading him right, he shouldn't be the target. He seems to be persuadable, or at least willing to stand aside and not try to block progress.<BR/><BR/>Not that I have sympathy for the guy. I'm just talking strategy here.<BR/><BR/>(Rick Santorum, on the other hand, was a prime target.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159158.post-28666438279986083352009-01-29T13:40:00.000-06:002009-01-29T13:40:00.000-06:00Thanks, WA, for the kind words, but the credit all...Thanks, WA, for the kind words, but the credit all goes to Savage here.<BR/><BR/>Yeah, Ridger, you're right, especially about the core problem.Mr. Verbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04048931596146402872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159158.post-28399701818755101202009-01-29T13:37:00.000-06:002009-01-29T13:37:00.000-06:00He tried to be inclusive but failed, as he probabl...He tried to be inclusive but failed, as he probably had to given his tradition. The problem wasn't what he said - which was painfully pedestrian until the end when he went first-person and <I>very</I> Christian - but that he was saying it.The Ridger, FCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01538111197270563075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159158.post-16049158473638564662009-01-29T13:12:00.000-06:002009-01-29T13:12:00.000-06:00Your are going on my favorites. Thank you and than...Your are going on my favorites. Thank you and thanks to Dan Savage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com