tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159158.post708352395332190056..comments2024-02-25T20:07:56.114-06:00Comments on Mr. Verb: Michelle Obama's str-/ʃtr-Mr. Verbhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04048931596146402872noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159158.post-35602103906757607462008-09-01T10:26:00.000-05:002008-09-01T10:26:00.000-05:00Thanks, Ben. So, even the consistency of the shtr-...Thanks, Ben. So, even the consistency of the shtr- sound normal to you? I certainly hear it in Wisconsin, including from African-Americans, but think of it as a variable not a categorical feature.<BR/><BR/>And you are absolutely right that there's been too little attention to date to what I think John Baugh calls (or used to call) "African-American Standard English".Mr. Verbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04048931596146402872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159158.post-30891876649373193422008-09-01T10:18:00.000-05:002008-09-01T10:18:00.000-05:00I grew up on the south side of Chicago in the next...I grew up on the south side of Chicago in the next neighborhood over from the one Michelle Obama grew up in, and I don't find this feature shtriking at all; to me it has two associations: (1) It is African American, (though not necessarily AAVE) and (2) it marks elevated speech, hence my caveat in (1). <BR/><BR/>I think there hasn't been enough attention paid to features of African American features that aren't AAVE, since many, if not most, African Americans sound distinctly African American even when speaking Standard English.Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02733601180382760718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159158.post-7934293061858106022008-08-26T18:07:00.000-05:002008-08-26T18:07:00.000-05:00Yeah, hardly the first time I've heard that reacti...Yeah, hardly the first time I've heard that reaction today. I'm amazed at the mismatch between the press I've read and how it looked to me.Mr. Verbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04048931596146402872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159158.post-9448788639348120782008-08-26T17:33:00.000-05:002008-08-26T17:33:00.000-05:00I heart her.I heart her.Brainshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05405985978357872966noreply@blogger.com