tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159158.post3166459938193855713..comments2024-02-25T20:07:56.114-06:00Comments on Mr. Verb: "Philologist" and other monikersMr. Verbhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04048931596146402872noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159158.post-66819761051293433922007-06-17T07:06:00.000-05:002007-06-17T07:06:00.000-05:00Oh, I hope I didn't complain or sound like I was c...Oh, I hope I didn't complain or sound like I was complaining -- I think I said I hadn't gotten used to the military use. "Language analyst" is fine. I'm still thinking language scientist sound good.<BR/><BR/>Part of the actual substance of the issue is that most people who are in the academic field of linguistics also are or have been linguists in other senses professionally -- language specialists of various sorts.Mr. Verbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04048931596146402872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159158.post-9687413376088075212007-06-16T13:37:00.000-05:002007-06-16T13:37:00.000-05:00Linguist is fine - just stop complaining about the...Linguist is fine - just stop complaining about the other meaning of it being applied to us. <BR/><BR/>Of course, I was a linguist in the army, so I'm both. And biased.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, the Department of Defense is pushing for "language analyst" for their linguists, so maybe one source of the confusion will go away?The Ridger, FCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01538111197270563075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159158.post-64870325787836741392007-06-16T12:43:00.000-05:002007-06-16T12:43:00.000-05:00And language scientist wouldn't be confusing for t...And language scientist wouldn't be confusing for those folks.Mr. Verbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04048931596146402872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159158.post-42465573468090136672007-06-16T10:14:00.000-05:002007-06-16T10:14:00.000-05:00I'm in agreement with the sentiments about languag...I'm in agreement with the sentiments about <I>language engineer</I>. Being involved in the conlanging (language construction) community, I know of several types of conlangers that could easily take that moniker better than a linguist could, especially those who make engelangs (engineered languages) and loglangs (logical languages).GAChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11756535843412579846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159158.post-74447428324105575892007-06-16T06:08:00.000-05:002007-06-16T06:08:00.000-05:00Oh yeah, language scientist is probably viable ......Oh yeah, <B>language scientist</B> is probably viable ... don't know why I didn't think of that yesterday. I'm with you on the Zamenhofian angle on language engineer.Mr. Verbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04048931596146402872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159158.post-49171705379334145002007-06-15T22:08:00.000-05:002007-06-15T22:08:00.000-05:00Ha! Just googled "language scientist" and got a f...Ha! Just googled "language scientist" and got a few hits, one of which was an old listserv posting about "linguist" in different languages, giving this tidbit:<BR/><BR/><I>In Esperanto, which of course is sociolinguistically more subject to<BR/>intentional manipulation and amateur language engineering than<BR/>unplanned languages, I have seen "lingvisto" used in both senses,<BR/>'language scientist' and 'polyglot'. Its morphology is<BR/> lingv ist o<BR/> language professional, practitioner noun (nom.sing.)<BR/>and one might say that the ambiguity of the word is to be expected<BR/>from the generality of the suffix "-ist".<BR/>I have occasionally seen "lingvologo" used for the 'language<BR/>scientist' sense. The suffix here is the semi-irregular "-(o)log-o",<BR/>meaning 'scientist of', corresponding to e.g. French "-(o)logue".</I><BR/><BR/>That covers everything just discussed, 'linguist', 'language engineering', Esperanto. Maybe there could be an English form analogous to the Esperanto 'lingvologo': <I>Langlogist</I>. Too bad English needs that -ist there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33159158.post-81306292560619783502007-06-15T22:02:00.000-05:002007-06-15T22:02:00.000-05:00Language engineer sounds like a trumped-up version...<I>Language engineer</I> sounds like a trumped-up version of what L.L. Zamenhof did in addition to his ocular work. As for "philologist", it has a sort of 19th century ring to my ears that is far too quaint for the work encompassed by <I>linguist</I> today. How about <I>language scientist</I>?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com